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Songs posted a video about Klaus Dona's video .
This led to a bit of discussion about some of the mysteries we were told about, when we were children.
This thread is a place where we can discuss such mysteries, how we first learned of them, what our interpretations are, how we can use that information to continue our evolution. You are welcome to discuss specifics of your childhood if you wish; there is no intention to force you to divulge conditions of your childhood here.
As an example, I was given a great deal of information about the Piri Reis map, underwater pyramids, non homo sapiens skulls and giant skeletal remains. As I said before, I looked at these things with extreme caution, due to the twisted nature of the beings that gave me the information and because most other people had no clue. I fought against my natural inclination to embrace the wonder, in case each was another instance of lies for the sake of lying.
Recently, I read that Reis means Captain, which is what I was told many years ago. So now, I'm processing what that means in terms of what other details I might have stored in memory, and what I can do with those details.
Edit: added proper link, with thanks to Songs. I felt so much smarter in my youth.
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GoingOn wrote:
Songs posted a video about Klaus Dona's video (I'll post the link here when I figure out how).
Several options- link to the actual post the vid is in, using the ridiculously small link post button that is (from memory) beside the thanks button- hah, I checked that and it's NOT that one, it's the little icon beside the green 'Posted' date line on each post. If you click on that it will give you an address in the address bar that you can use as a direct link to the post if you copy and paste the link into this thread.
OR send me the link and I'll post it for you as I know how to do that, it's not a Phoenix trick
OR
go to the post, hit 'quote' in the reply options, and the vid will come up in its [youtube] youtube identifier number[/youtube] form. Copy and paste that entire link (with the [youtube][/youtube] bits as well) into a post here and voila, it will appear.
Now I'm going to ponder the rest of your post, because I learned most things I 'know' about this planet from the otherrealms and I've just realised how much I *haven't* listened to what I was shown and told...
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Many years ago, I had a preview of doing this -- going through memories with the specific purpose of identifying those that could be meaningful in terms of human evolution. At that space/time, the process looked like it would be a bit challenging.
Humans who were not family members told me reptilian beings evolved along with humans, and the sun is not as hot as science wants us to believe, plus it's more liquidy than gas alone. Both of these comforted me.
Now, family members, they're another story. Background: I still regain memories of 40+ years ago, and some of my programming was personalized (in addition to standard virus code). During my exciting childhood, I was told something happened in the early 1960's that reduced what technology would be made available to the public -- but I wasn't told (or still can't remember) details. Instinctively, I think it was these three things: first CERN particle accelerator opened (1960), then Nobel Prize awarded for DNA studies (1962), then US President JF Kennedy assassinated (1963).
CERN messes with space/time in ways that promise "more power! more power!" to those least qualified to handle more power. President Kennedy seemed to pose a significant threat to those least qualified to handle more power.
Oh, and Rio de Janeiro is a very important city. Nothing else on that yet.
As I sort out more memories, and how these affected me, I'll post them.
Looking forward to reactions to this and to mysteries from the childhoods of others.
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GoingOn wrote:
Humans who were not family members told me reptilian beings evolved along with humans
For me, coming from the 'reality' that I was born with, the reptilian race is, in part, another slave race that was created prior to the sapiens; in my memory, there were reptilian 'kinds' that came through with the anunnaki, and these were further altered once the experiments started here.
I have long loved the so-called 'reptilians' that have been in my Otherrealms, and have never been interested in the propaganda about them, particularly the rubbish spouted that the anunnaki looked like reptiles. What cobblers- even in the anunnaki bible it's pointed out that sapiens are made in the image of their makers.
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and the sun is not as hot as science wants us to believe, plus it's more liquidy than gas alone. Both of these comforted me.
I know suns as energy and space portals that can be accessed in really interesting ways, although the mechanics of how this can be done is locked in my head: it has something to do with 'sources of light', unique frequency and triangulation of this, travelling via the light.
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CERN messes with space/time in ways that promise "more power! more power!" to those least qualified to handle more power. President Kennedy seemed to pose a significant threat to those least qualified to handle more power.
Deep resonance pings for me there- there are reasons so many energetics have their attention pointed at this particular area- all the ways the anunnaki are trying to get out of the quarantine, trying to punch their way out. *grinning to my Self* For those of us who *know* how the quarantine functions, it's a bit like watching Quixote taking on the windmill with a toothpick, but they've managed to hurt us a few times, that's for sure: it's amazing what can be done with those who decide to turn to the Dark Side, even if it is only temporarily.
*looks down at my hands* I chose not to again pay the price for connection with an individual that has repeatedly injured me in the past, over precisely the issue of addiction to force disguised as power; this time, the signal appears to have shifted- I think I've evolved beyond that particular illusion now and there won't be another offer towards that Being, who has chosen to follow the path that they've always preferred. The losses this time, at least, were only mine, and didn't involve the slaughter of countless thousands as has been the case in the past... it won't happen again that way- because despite appearances to the contrary, sometimes I *do* know how to maintain boundaries...
Does *any* Being really think it co-incidence that, as one has chosen to follow their old pattern, another has appeared in the space with a similar signal, yet much, much greater heart and willing spirit, kicking vigorously at the doors of my withdrawal and gleefully piling treasures around my frequency? Energy has been laughing at me for the past 24 hours...
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Oh, and Rio de Janeiro is a very important city. Nothing else on that yet.
So, so interesting... I have known that, in the past, but it's just lying there dormant for me too.
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As I sort out more memories, and how these affected me, I'll post them.
Looking forward to reactions to this and to mysteries from the childhoods of others.
I'm thinking I might respond to this one in a combo of audio and writing...
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Blergh. Calling up these memories has activated the "don't go there" code which resulted in actual physical illness.
I see and feel ‘signal’ as the connection point where the energy flowing from the centre of the chest meets the vertical column of energy. Am I mis-reading/misunderstanding? Could the position vary? This seems more of a technical question than a life changing one, may not seem "on topic" and I feel a little silly asking it. And ..... it feels like an important question, in terms of how I’m working on staying within the physical body (if that makes any sense; if not, I can try to find better words).
Actually, here’s a gif that demonstrates why having a handle on ‘signal’ might help me….
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GoingOn wrote:
Blergh. Calling up these memories has activated the "don't go there" code which resulted in actual physical illness.
Actually, I believe that many of us Evolution signal carriers have been subtly implanted with similar kinds of 'don't go there' reactions: I know that part of my staggering through the virus codes have been my willingness to remain in the space, head down, grimly hanging on to my sense of signal while the Balrogs have shredded me to pieces, screaming like banshees and threatening me with all kinds of dire consequences if I *do* go there, and using my implanted Monsanto codes to batter me.
The way I use it these days is something that I wrote in one of the essays you republished- the way I use the virus these days is that if it triggers on me I know I must be doing something right and so I focus on what it is that *I'm* doing, not on what the virus is doing in response.
Clearly, you've triggered sentinels, so you must be onto something. It will be interesting to see what it is they don't want you to see.
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I see and feel ‘signal’ as the connection point where the energy flowing from the centre of the chest meets the vertical column of energy. Am I mis-reading/misunderstanding? Could the position vary? This seems more of a technical question than a life changing one, may not seem "on topic" and I feel a little silly asking it. And ..... it feels like an important question, in terms of how I’m working on staying within the physical body
Knowing where one's own energy centers and functions are is not a useless endeavour and is, I intuit, one of the primary reasons the disruptions are programmed into us in the first place: remember the revolting premise of The Golden Compass? There's a reason the controllers want us cut off from our internal connections, and your video demonstrates precisely how that effects me, anyway- for Otherkind oriented Beings, being oriented in the multiverse is an *internal* thing, while anunnaki signal humans orient externally- it's how they're controlled
so disrupt my internal connections and you can disrupt this Otherkind- cohesion is the way I navigate the realms, and the more cohesion I have, the better at the navigation I am and the more creative power is available to me. Cohesion is the thing for me, the thing I'm exploring- being the same on the inside as I am on the outside- which in itself is a fascinating exploration.
the thing is, just as the signal within me is unique, so is the way it functions, and even where it comes from within me, where I experience it as happening and flowing from within me. In an infinitely possible multiverse, where we are essentially creating our Selves in every moment, I am responding in an utterly unique way to the input around me: how can any individual know what it is that I'm feeling? They'd have to be me to do that, and I'd have to do that to know them fully. Everything is subjective, nothing can ever be objectively known IF the sui generis is in operation, so it pays to disrupt it if one's objective is to control others.
That's my perspective from this part of the hologram, fwiw...
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Ok, woah, that completely reset a couple of buttons that I didn’t even know existed. External orientation – I, I can’t even imagine … well, maybe I can …. Allow me a moment to at me.
Several thoughtform pieces just coalesced: - No wonder humans look at me that way (viewtopic.php?p=3453#p3453 which I posted to explain that look). - No wonder humanish look at me the other way. - No wonder so many individuals resist accepting this world as a hologram/movie/projection. - I feel like a gyroscope, creative enough to recognize, receive and (when required) respond to most things when I feel this internal centre. It took me many years to grasp that. - Activation of deep code (and the sentinels) tends to knock me off balance for a while. Your perspective was entirely helpful, thank you!
Yes, sentinels were triggered. Their flailing entertains me. My obvious focus on them and resulting amusement seems to disrupt their chi and they stop, often rather suddenly. Then my body gets sick to expel the whole mess. One of these days, I may figure out what else to do with a sentinel in need of employment.
Right. Back to mysteries.
More from my parents: Mars is inhabited and was an early Earth colony. Earth’s moon is a constructed object, hollow and is inhabited. Saturn is ‘the ruling planet’ where the ruler(s) of Earth live, and it is a sending/receiving station. Time travel, underground cities on Earth, high speed underground transit in the United States and, I think, going as far as the United Kingdom all existed for the ruling class and their minions (my parents have strong family ties to royalty, blergh and blergh again). I don't think I was ever minion enough to enjoy any of these.
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songsfortheotherkind wrote:
For me, coming from the 'reality' that I was born with, the reptilian race is, in part, another slave race that was created prior to the sapiens; in my memory, there were reptilian 'kinds' that came through with the anunnaki, and these were further altered once the experiments started here.
I have long loved the so-called 'reptilians' that have been in my Otherrealms, and have never been interested in the propaganda about them, particularly the rubbish spouted that the anunnaki looked like reptiles. What cobblers- even in the anunnaki bible it's pointed out that sapiens are made in the image of their makers.
Oh, do not let me get started on the bibble, I would bore you directly to weeping. And I do hope I’m not insulting by using the term ‘Reptilian’ because I don’t have any other word yet. There’s a world or more of difference in my thoughtforms between ‘Reptilian’ and the pseudo-repts various governments use to instil terror.
songsfortheotherkind wrote:
*looks down at my hands* I chose not to again pay the price for connection with an individual that has repeatedly injured me in the past, over precisely the issue of addiction to force disguised as power; this time, the signal appears to have shifted- I think I've evolved beyond that particular illusion now and there won't be another offer towards that Being, who has chosen to follow the path that they've always preferred. The losses this time, at least, were only mine, and didn't involve the slaughter of countless thousands as has been the case in the past... it won't happen again that way- because despite appearances to the contrary, sometimes I *do* know how to maintain boundaries...
Look! Over there! That is a well-maintained boundary -- lovely, that is!
songsfortheotherkind wrote:
Does *any* Being really think it co-incidence that, as one has chosen to follow their old pattern, another has appeared in the space with a similar signal, yet much, much greater heart and willing spirit, kicking vigorously at the doors of my withdrawal and gleefully piling treasures around my frequency? Energy has been laughing at me for the past 24 hours...
songsfortheotherkind wrote:
I'm thinking I might respond to this one in a combo of audio and writing...
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Where I'm living now my roommate was kind enough to give me the weekend alone again, and I spent yesterday without interaction with anyone, didn't go into public, no TV exposure or news or anything, and it was so different than a normal day. My ideas and perceptions could build on each other for hours, I could stop at any moment and just cast my mind's net over everything I was perceiving and I could relax to find anything I was interested in. Nothing was being shoved at me, forced into my awareness. Reading your post above was supportive of that. I especially liked this (and am especially hating how properly I'm writing these thoughts in sentences):
songsfortheotherkind wrote:
The way I use it these days is something that I wrote in one of the essays you republished- the way I use the virus these days is that if it triggers on me I know I must be doing something right and so I focus on what it is that *I'm* doing, not on what the virus is doing in response.
Why didn't I think to ask this simple question instead of focusing on what's happening to me? So not why the TV makes me want to punch the wall, but that when it does that it's when I've woken up and am have good connection with myself and wanting to spend the day doing meaningful things directed by what I find when I cast my mind's net around the subtle things going on around me that day.
GoingOn wrote:
- I feel like a gyroscope, creative enough to recognize, receive and (when required) respond to most things when I feel this internal centre. It took me many years to grasp that.
I love that word, and the connotations. If you try to twist one around, it fights back and twists around to keep its internal orientation to the universe.
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GoingOn wrote:
Oh, do not let me get started on the bibble, I would bore you directly to weeping.
*laughing* What amazes me is that those who wave that book around don't appear to have actually investigated it much. Lol.
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And I do hope I’m not insulting by using the term ‘Reptilian’ because I don’t have any other word yet. There’s a world or more of difference in my thoughtforms between ‘Reptilian’ and the pseudo-repts various governments use to instil terror.
no insult, although I will be much happier when I can jimmy open the memory banks and remember what they like to be called: I know it when I'm in the Realms, but as soon as I cross back here, so much is lost. ><
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Look! Over there! That is a well-maintained boundary -- lovely, that is!
hurrah for those that appreciate boundaries! It appears to be heading towards the 'Lost Arts' category...
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Heh. Multi-multi-tasking.
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